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		<title>By: John Gird</title>
		<link>http://www.strangelegacy.com/2008/04/28/the-nature-of-human-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christopher

I enjoyed reading your article- In my opinion it hints at many good ideas, and is easy and pleasant to read.
At the same time I believe that you should review your own assumptions quite extensively, and also rethink the structure of your argument. You seem to refer to some of  the rules for scientific verification, and then hop across to an appeal for  flexibility in individuals value choices. These are commonly accepted sets of ideas, but they have little to do with each other.

And really, every assumption does not amount to an act of religious acceptance. No system can prove itself, so yes, every base assumption is, well, assumed.  In a working logic any axiom is discardable at need.  The criterion for the validity of the system is usually its operational validity, and the basic assumptions stand or fall by that, not in themselves. In religious belief such an attitude would not be tolerable. I dont know of any religion that makes the statement, &quot; Believe in God until we find contrary evidence.&quot;

I understand that you are being as concise as possible and that you could not lay out your entire argument while keeping peoples interest. So I am not pointing at the incompleteness of the various points you make. More basically, I think that when dealing with issues as complex as intelligence, ethics, system theory, theory of knowledge, theory of mind, or even just rational decision making that you should take more care to limit your intent and clarify the assumptions in your own argument.

Please reconsider what intelligence may be beyond your search engine desription. Isn&#039;t it a conditional thing? Individual intelligence is variable and situational, subject to the tastes of whoever cares to measure it, and definitely poorly understood by all. 

Also note that arguments and beliefs are not just based on their assumptions, any more than a system is only reliant on its elements.  Logic and process are just two other important consitituents. There are many more.

Bottom line, I  sympathise with the intent of what you wrote, but I believe that any real attempt to take an informed intellectual stance on what is knowable or reasonable to assume is already the work of a lifetime. Confusing the issue with what is right and good to know is a whole different kettle of fish, and a job at least equal to the other. 

Regards
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christopher</p>
<p>I enjoyed reading your article- In my opinion it hints at many good ideas, and is easy and pleasant to read.<br />
At the same time I believe that you should review your own assumptions quite extensively, and also rethink the structure of your argument. You seem to refer to some of  the rules for scientific verification, and then hop across to an appeal for  flexibility in individuals value choices. These are commonly accepted sets of ideas, but they have little to do with each other.</p>
<p>And really, every assumption does not amount to an act of religious acceptance. No system can prove itself, so yes, every base assumption is, well, assumed.  In a working logic any axiom is discardable at need.  The criterion for the validity of the system is usually its operational validity, and the basic assumptions stand or fall by that, not in themselves. In religious belief such an attitude would not be tolerable. I dont know of any religion that makes the statement, &#8221; Believe in God until we find contrary evidence.&#8221;</p>
<p>I understand that you are being as concise as possible and that you could not lay out your entire argument while keeping peoples interest. So I am not pointing at the incompleteness of the various points you make. More basically, I think that when dealing with issues as complex as intelligence, ethics, system theory, theory of knowledge, theory of mind, or even just rational decision making that you should take more care to limit your intent and clarify the assumptions in your own argument.</p>
<p>Please reconsider what intelligence may be beyond your search engine desription. Isn&#8217;t it a conditional thing? Individual intelligence is variable and situational, subject to the tastes of whoever cares to measure it, and definitely poorly understood by all. </p>
<p>Also note that arguments and beliefs are not just based on their assumptions, any more than a system is only reliant on its elements.  Logic and process are just two other important consitituents. There are many more.</p>
<p>Bottom line, I  sympathise with the intent of what you wrote, but I believe that any real attempt to take an informed intellectual stance on what is knowable or reasonable to assume is already the work of a lifetime. Confusing the issue with what is right and good to know is a whole different kettle of fish, and a job at least equal to the other. </p>
<p>Regards<br />
John</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good info on The Nature of Human Intelligence. Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: Strange Legacy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Descending to the Ninth Circle</title>
		<link>http://www.strangelegacy.com/2008/04/28/the-nature-of-human-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Strange Legacy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Descending to the Ninth Circle</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Strange Legacy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Einstein&#8217;s Shortfall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strange Legacy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Einstein&#8217;s Shortfall</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Here’s an interesting follow up to an article I recently posted on the nature of the human intelligence. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Strange Legacy &#187; Week in Review: April 27 - May 3, 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strange Legacy &#187; Week in Review: April 27 - May 3, 2007</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.strangelegacy.com/2008/04/28/the-nature-of-human-intelligence/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 20:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science vs. religion is where one is the unending pursuit of knowledge while the other is the end of the pursuit of knowledge (It has been pre-ordained, so sayeth the flock).  Intelligence is the ability to tell the difference (open mind vs. closed, so to speak).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science vs. religion is where one is the unending pursuit of knowledge while the other is the end of the pursuit of knowledge (It has been pre-ordained, so sayeth the flock).  Intelligence is the ability to tell the difference (open mind vs. closed, so to speak).</p>
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		<title>By: Strange Legacy &#187; Socrates Meets Quantum Physics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strange Legacy &#187; Socrates Meets Quantum Physics</dc:creator>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It would seem that we live in a modest universe – one which is unwilling to lay bare all of her secrets. Perhaps there is an element of design to these obstacles of understanding, limiting our progression and preventing us from tinkering with the DNA of creation itself. In the presence of these seemingly impenetrable barriers it seems clear that we can never be certain of what we think is certain. Regardless of how much we learn or discover it seems that we, like Socrates, are forever compelled acknowledge our ignorance. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much agree. I&#039;ve often thought about the restrictions of religious thought and how one is not allowed to question it, &quot;if god gave me a brain, wouldn&#039;t he want me to use it to ask questions?&quot;. I enjoyed your piece as it is a well written expansion on this thought.

To add a thought to the part at the end of your piece about wisdom being achieved by deciding what assumptions we are willing to make. The knowledge we then lack access to can be supplimented by decisions on who to trust as advisors on that knowledge, thus showing a humility that one simply can&#039;t &quot;know it all&quot;. I think this is another sign of wisdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much agree. I&#8217;ve often thought about the restrictions of religious thought and how one is not allowed to question it, &#8220;if god gave me a brain, wouldn&#8217;t he want me to use it to ask questions?&#8221;. I enjoyed your piece as it is a well written expansion on this thought.</p>
<p>To add a thought to the part at the end of your piece about wisdom being achieved by deciding what assumptions we are willing to make. The knowledge we then lack access to can be supplimented by decisions on who to trust as advisors on that knowledge, thus showing a humility that one simply can&#8217;t &#8220;know it all&#8221;. I think this is another sign of wisdom.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In engineering they teach us that in solving a problem one of the first things you must do is state your assumptions.  This then provides a context wherein your solution will be valid and essentially provides a declaration of the limitations/validity of your final solution.  When I was working on my Masters Thesis which deals whith highly theoretical materials science (quantum mechanics and solid state physics), it was knowledge of the assumptions and a discussion of their strengths/weaknesses that allowed us to validate our theories and suggest areas for further study.  What would it be like if people got in the habit of stating their assumptions in other settings.  Reminds me also of one of the first rules of debate; define the terms you are using.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In engineering they teach us that in solving a problem one of the first things you must do is state your assumptions.  This then provides a context wherein your solution will be valid and essentially provides a declaration of the limitations/validity of your final solution.  When I was working on my Masters Thesis which deals whith highly theoretical materials science (quantum mechanics and solid state physics), it was knowledge of the assumptions and a discussion of their strengths/weaknesses that allowed us to validate our theories and suggest areas for further study.  What would it be like if people got in the habit of stating their assumptions in other settings.  Reminds me also of one of the first rules of debate; define the terms you are using.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article. I&#039;m not sure I completely agree with your the words and phrasing you use. Most importantly the thesis: intelligence is questioning/forsaking assumptions. There are better ways to state this, but I get the jist. Getting picky at semantics is often not worth the time and effort involved. 

I&#039;m of the idea that extremes and overindulgance in pretty much anything can be unhealthy. You provide a good case for finding a good balance in one&#039;s own quest for knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. I&#8217;m not sure I completely agree with your the words and phrasing you use. Most importantly the thesis: intelligence is questioning/forsaking assumptions. There are better ways to state this, but I get the jist. Getting picky at semantics is often not worth the time and effort involved. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m of the idea that extremes and overindulgance in pretty much anything can be unhealthy. You provide a good case for finding a good balance in one&#8217;s own quest for knowledge.</p>
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